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	<title>Comments on: Avoiding the Google Sandbox</title>
	<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/</link>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-6739</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-6739</guid>
		<description>Hi Elene,

It seems to depend a lot on the competitiveness of the keywords you're targeting. If you're trying for something like 'weight loss' or 'forex' it will take you a while to establish a 'trust rank' with Google. But, if you're working long tail terms or lower competition niches you may gain trust and keyword authority much quicker, in weeks rather than months or years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elene,</p>
<p>It seems to depend a lot on the competitiveness of the keywords you&#8217;re targeting. If you&#8217;re trying for something like &#8216;weight loss&#8217; or &#8216;forex&#8217; it will take you a while to establish a &#8216;trust rank&#8217; with Google. But, if you&#8217;re working long tail terms or lower competition niches you may gain trust and keyword authority much quicker, in weeks rather than months or years.</p>
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		<title>By: Elene Parker</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-6738</link>
		<dc:creator>Elene Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-6738</guid>
		<description>This is actually good to hear. The message I’m walking away with is “Your search engine traffic may be low for the first 6-12 months, but don’t worry, it will get better automatically.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually good to hear. The message I’m walking away with is “Your search engine traffic may be low for the first 6-12 months, but don’t worry, it will get better automatically.”</p>
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		<title>By: Lorecee</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-6452</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorecee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-6452</guid>
		<description>Rand Fishkin at &lt;a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/googles-sandbox-still-exists-exemplified-by-gradercom" rel="nofollow"&gt;SEOmoz&lt;/a&gt; has an interesting case study on a well-funded startup that couldn't rank for its search terms despite its PR5.  Fishkin says he has it straight from G's mouth that the sandbox does exist:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I fought for a long time to gain any credibility (as most established SEOs did not believe in its existence until later on), but owe a debt of thanks to Aaron D'Souza from Google who, during a meeting at my first SES San Jose conference, confirmed its existence and effect (though he was naturally coy about revealing any particular details). He also indicated that inside Google, it had a different name (though I still don't know what that was/is).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There's still some confusion among beginners about the difference between actual sandboxing (where no matter what you do or what your PR, you can't rank for any competitive terms), and the natural drop-off in the SERPs after initially ranking high due to the Quality Deserves Freshness part of Google's algorithm that Justin talks about on his &lt;a href="http://seozombie.com/bloggers/site-build-it/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SEO tips&lt;/a&gt; blog.  New sites will land on page 1 after two weeks in existence and the owner thinks it's a cakewalk to rank on page 1.  Then when they get bumped down to #100 as newer content comes up and takes their place, they mistakenly assume they're sandboxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand Fishkin at <a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/googles-sandbox-still-exists-exemplified-by-gradercom" rel="nofollow">SEOmoz</a> has an interesting case study on a well-funded startup that couldn&#8217;t rank for its search terms despite its PR5.  Fishkin says he has it straight from G&#8217;s mouth that the sandbox does exist:</p>
<blockquote><p>I fought for a long time to gain any credibility (as most established SEOs did not believe in its existence until later on), but owe a debt of thanks to Aaron D&#8217;Souza from Google who, during a meeting at my first SES San Jose conference, confirmed its existence and effect (though he was naturally coy about revealing any particular details). He also indicated that inside Google, it had a different name (though I still don&#8217;t know what that was/is).</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s still some confusion among beginners about the difference between actual sandboxing (where no matter what you do or what your PR, you can&#8217;t rank for any competitive terms), and the natural drop-off in the SERPs after initially ranking high due to the Quality Deserves Freshness part of Google&#8217;s algorithm that Justin talks about on his <a href="http://seozombie.com/bloggers/site-build-it/" rel="nofollow">SEO tips</a> blog.  New sites will land on page 1 after two weeks in existence and the owner thinks it&#8217;s a cakewalk to rank on page 1.  Then when they get bumped down to #100 as newer content comes up and takes their place, they mistakenly assume they&#8217;re sandboxed.</p>
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		<title>By: Funny Junk</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-5774</link>
		<dc:creator>Funny Junk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-5774</guid>
		<description>Getting in the sandbox basically sucks, but most sites will eventually make their way out of it. I believe that sites that do get sandboxed though, usually makes it more likely for the owner to quit since his site won't be getting as many visitors. I have been sandboxed before on some of my sites, and it does suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting in the sandbox basically sucks, but most sites will eventually make their way out of it. I believe that sites that do get sandboxed though, usually makes it more likely for the owner to quit since his site won&#8217;t be getting as many visitors. I have been sandboxed before on some of my sites, and it does suck.</p>
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		<title>By: partoba</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-5416</link>
		<dc:creator>partoba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-5416</guid>
		<description>My blog now, I supposed, is in Sandbox. And it's because this domain is new and aged just a month. Now I can't find it anywhere for my keyword, and even for the domain name itself. It's annoying for sure but many suggestions to keep building the site that one day it'll come up the deserved ranking. I hope so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog now, I supposed, is in Sandbox. And it&#8217;s because this domain is new and aged just a month. Now I can&#8217;t find it anywhere for my keyword, and even for the domain name itself. It&#8217;s annoying for sure but many suggestions to keep building the site that one day it&#8217;ll come up the deserved ranking. I hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-5216</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-5216</guid>
		<description>Hey great article,

I've had my share of problems in the past with the sandbox, and decided that an aged domain strategy was the way to go.

The biggest issue is of course being able to find aged domains that are keyword rich to your niche.

I found this free website that allows you to search multiple keywords at a time for a domain, and then get this.  It shows page rank and the age of the domain.

Apparently some of these nearly expired domains have existing page rank.

Actually you can search for all types of aged domains, but I only search the "buy now" domains with a price of $5.

Among my finds so far was a 2 year old domain with a page rank of 4 !  and a 9 year old domain keyword rich.  Both were $5.

The website is at &lt;a href="http://www.aged-domain-finder.com" title="www.aged-domain-finder.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.aged-domain-finder.com&lt;/a&gt;

There are probably other websites out there offering similar things, but I haven't found a site that has a comprehensive search capability and then shows automated age and page rank.

Gee I sound like a fan, don't I  :)

Best,


Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey great article,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had my share of problems in the past with the sandbox, and decided that an aged domain strategy was the way to go.</p>
<p>The biggest issue is of course being able to find aged domains that are keyword rich to your niche.</p>
<p>I found this free website that allows you to search multiple keywords at a time for a domain, and then get this.  It shows page rank and the age of the domain.</p>
<p>Apparently some of these nearly expired domains have existing page rank.</p>
<p>Actually you can search for all types of aged domains, but I only search the &#8220;buy now&#8221; domains with a price of $5.</p>
<p>Among my finds so far was a 2 year old domain with a page rank of 4 !  and a 9 year old domain keyword rich.  Both were $5.</p>
<p>The website is at <a href="http://www.aged-domain-finder.com" title="www.aged-domain-finder.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.aged-domain-finder.com</a></p>
<p>There are probably other websites out there offering similar things, but I haven&#8217;t found a site that has a comprehensive search capability and then shows automated age and page rank.</p>
<p>Gee I sound like a fan, don&#8217;t I  <img src='http://optempo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Refurbished Mac Computers</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-3860</link>
		<dc:creator>Refurbished Mac Computers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-3860</guid>
		<description>I've been sticking to aged domains and so far, touch wood, it seems to be keeping my sites out of the sandbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been sticking to aged domains and so far, touch wood, it seems to be keeping my sites out of the sandbox.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheap Anime Games</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-3856</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheap Anime Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-3856</guid>
		<description>Just answered my own question ... did a little more reading on your site and found your post with the "fix" for Top Commentator plugin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just answered my own question &#8230; did a little more reading on your site and found your post with the &#8220;fix&#8221; for Top Commentator plugin.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheap Anime Games</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-3855</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheap Anime Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-3855</guid>
		<description>Can I ask what you're referring to here? I have some questions about the Top Commentator plugin, but am having trouble finding definitive answers.

Specifically - what is the field that identifies the top commentators? I assume one would have to keep the Name consistent (so, Cheap Anime Games in my case) but is it possible to vary the link, thus also sending links to an interior page?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I ask what you&#8217;re referring to here? I have some questions about the Top Commentator plugin, but am having trouble finding definitive answers.</p>
<p>Specifically - what is the field that identifies the top commentators? I assume one would have to keep the Name consistent (so, Cheap Anime Games in my case) but is it possible to vary the link, thus also sending links to an interior page?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Wilson</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2008/03/09/avoiding-the-google-sandbox/#comment-1563</guid>
		<description>Hey SEo Man...i think it definitely exists...why? Because we're in it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey SEo Man&#8230;i think it definitely exists&#8230;why? Because we&#8217;re in it</p>
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