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	<title>Comments on: Standard Oil and Google</title>
	<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/</link>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-368</guid>
		<description>Hi Markk,

Akismet didn't like your comment for some reason so I had to rescue it from a trashbin filled with ads for 'enhancement' products. 

I think it's a trap that well run companies, like Standard Oil and Google, encounter as their technical and business expertise captures a large percentage of the market. In their competitive zeal they run roughshod over small competitors and those who associate with them. I'd like to see Google avoid this trap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Markk,</p>
<p>Akismet didn&#8217;t like your comment for some reason so I had to rescue it from a trashbin filled with ads for &#8216;enhancement&#8217; products. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a trap that well run companies, like Standard Oil and Google, encounter as their technical and business expertise captures a large percentage of the market. In their competitive zeal they run roughshod over small competitors and those who associate with them. I&#8217;d like to see Google avoid this trap.</p>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-366</guid>
		<description>Hi 'DigMyPage'

Of course, I think it is quite a valid comparison. Google is behaving the same way as other companies that have run into problems with anti-trust laws. I could have just as easily drawn comparisons between them and AT&#038;T or Microsoft.

I do think they have time to change direction. I wish they would avoid the problem since some of my retirement investment depends upon them continuing to make money and not on them being distracted by a long, drawn out, legal battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8216;DigMyPage&#8217;</p>
<p>Of course, I think it is quite a valid comparison. Google is behaving the same way as other companies that have run into problems with anti-trust laws. I could have just as easily drawn comparisons between them and AT&#038;T or Microsoft.</p>
<p>I do think they have time to change direction. I wish they would avoid the problem since some of my retirement investment depends upon them continuing to make money and not on them being distracted by a long, drawn out, legal battle.</p>
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		<title>By: DigMyPage</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>DigMyPage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-364</guid>
		<description>The comparison is not valid. If Google removes a bunch of sites from their top rank, those spots are filled up by other sites. It is not that Google is getting a kickback to fill those top spots. Some go because of their behaviors and new one fill those spots.

Those new ones may be as good as the old one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comparison is not valid. If Google removes a bunch of sites from their top rank, those spots are filled up by other sites. It is not that Google is getting a kickback to fill those top spots. Some go because of their behaviors and new one fill those spots.</p>
<p>Those new ones may be as good as the old one.</p>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-363</guid>
		<description>Hi Chistoph,

I think Google will determine that putting that little green bar in their toolbar was a mistake because it put them in the business of determining the value of websites to the whole world. 

If they had kept PageRank to themselves and developed an objective, hands off, metric based on traffic and a few other public factors it would have been much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chistoph,</p>
<p>I think Google will determine that putting that little green bar in their toolbar was a mistake because it put them in the business of determining the value of websites to the whole world. </p>
<p>If they had kept PageRank to themselves and developed an objective, hands off, metric based on traffic and a few other public factors it would have been much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Cemper</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph Cemper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-358</guid>
		<description>Wow - this is a great post - a great comparison, and indeed it is obvious that Google uses it's PR toolbar to hurt their competitors in advertising... 

the whole anti-paid-link propaganda they ramped up last March or so is just to drive more and more business to Adwords... Where your ranks, and increasing costs, are guaranteed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow - this is a great post - a great comparison, and indeed it is obvious that Google uses it&#8217;s PR toolbar to hurt their competitors in advertising&#8230; </p>
<p>the whole anti-paid-link propaganda they ramped up last March or so is just to drive more and more business to Adwords&#8230; Where your ranks, and increasing costs, are guaranteed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-356</guid>
		<description>Thanks for stopping by Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Markk</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Markk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-353</guid>
		<description>This is one of the better arguments to shed light on the direction that Google is heading instead of the usual "stick up the middle finger" kind of rants coming from those who got hit. You raise a good point about Big Oil vs the little man. And as Jason puts it, it's as close an analogy as one can get when we think of Big G. However, I suspect there's more to it than "beating up the little guys" for paid links and paid posts. Just can't put a finger on it yet, but maybe it will surface later when the dust finally settle. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the better arguments to shed light on the direction that Google is heading instead of the usual &#8220;stick up the middle finger&#8221; kind of rants coming from those who got hit. You raise a good point about Big Oil vs the little man. And as Jason puts it, it&#8217;s as close an analogy as one can get when we think of Big G. However, I suspect there&#8217;s more to it than &#8220;beating up the little guys&#8221; for paid links and paid posts. Just can&#8217;t put a finger on it yet, but maybe it will surface later when the dust finally settle. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-352</guid>
		<description>Hi Jason,

I think that Google's advertising could do quite well without the search although funding the search might be difficult without the advertising revenue.

PPP is already organizing a "write your Congressperson" campaign and it's likely that other affected companies might do the same. You don't want your company being the subject of a Congressional investigation or, even worse, have someone at the Justice Department building a career on taking your company down. I think this is the way Google is headed though if they keep beating up on the "little guys".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>I think that Google&#8217;s advertising could do quite well without the search although funding the search might be difficult without the advertising revenue.</p>
<p>PPP is already organizing a &#8220;write your Congressperson&#8221; campaign and it&#8217;s likely that other affected companies might do the same. You don&#8217;t want your company being the subject of a Congressional investigation or, even worse, have someone at the Justice Department building a career on taking your company down. I think this is the way Google is headed though if they keep beating up on the &#8220;little guys&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-351</guid>
		<description>Very nice article.  You make some really great points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice article.  You make some really great points.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason A Clark</title>
		<link>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason A Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://optempo.com/2007/11/15/standard-oil-and-google/#comment-349</guid>
		<description>I think the analogy with Standard Oil is a good one and quite accurate.  I'm not sure if making Google Search non-profit would work since they need the search in order to sale the ads.  I'm not a fan of the PR so anything they do to make that better would be fine with me.

I don't think we'll see them splitting the company any time soon.  I'm not sure we'll see anyone from Justice going after them anytime soon either.  I don't think the government even realizes what Google is doing or has a firm enough grasp of how their business works to understand that they have a monopoly and that they're flexing some major muscle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the analogy with Standard Oil is a good one and quite accurate.  I&#8217;m not sure if making Google Search non-profit would work since they need the search in order to sale the ads.  I&#8217;m not a fan of the PR so anything they do to make that better would be fine with me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see them splitting the company any time soon.  I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;ll see anyone from Justice going after them anytime soon either.  I don&#8217;t think the government even realizes what Google is doing or has a firm enough grasp of how their business works to understand that they have a monopoly and that they&#8217;re flexing some major muscle.</p>
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